plans with local residents
|This article appeared in the March 18, 2004 issue of the Southside Sentinel.|
Rosegill developers review plans with local residents
by Tom Chillemi
Diane Cox Basheer and Ken Thompson explain
preliminary plans for Rosegill during
Developers Diane Cox Basheer and Ken Thompson, who have a contract to purchase Rosegill Plantation's 860 acres, shared their vision for the development of the property during the Urbanna Town Council meeting on Monday.
Diane Cox Communities, of Vienna, and Ken Thompson and Associates Inc., of Woodbridge, have 30-plus years in development in Northern Virginia and Maryland, including building adjacent to a sensitive body of water, the Occoquan Reservoir.
"Very early, that made me attentive to all those kinds fo environmental issues that are important," Thompson told the audience of about 60 local residents Monday night. We've learned to engage our consultants to always be on the forefront with design concepts to address the kinds of issues that relate to the environment?"
Before such things as erosion and sediment control, storm water management and best management practices became law, Thompson said he voluntarily implemented those practices and low density development. 'We were involved in low impact developments five years ago:' he said.
"We recognize the beauty in Rosegill and we have every intention to do what we can to protect the wonderful environment there, not to mention the archeological heritage that is there as well" said Thompson.
Basheer handles the design, community planning and home building phases. She said in the last eight to 10 years the way people want to live has changed. Baby boomers are beginning to think about retirement and more of them want to get out of the bustle and everyday stress of the city."
They are looking to retire to "coastal" areas that are only two or three hours from the rest of the family and where they previously lived.
About three years ago Basheer developed Kingsport of Annapolis and that reinforced her idea that people are looking for retirement places or second homes that are more relaxed, yet close enough that they can visit where they had previously lived.
She spoke of a "neo-traditional land plan" that clusters homes together in the internal area with green space for community use.
Basheer and Thompson are finishing up their largest developments, River Falls on the Occoquan, encompassing 2,900 acres. (See www.dianecoxbasheer.com)
For Rosegill, they envision a 'new urban style" development, which is a "village style residential community:' she said.
Basheer said they want to "create the feeling of community." Unlike a typical platted community with homes spread over a field, they envision homes clustered together, preserving "significant open spaces," and with varied housing types.
Thompson said 35 to 40 percent of the Rosegill development would remain in open space.
Basheer said they hope to place garages at the back of the houses with access through an alleyway, as they did in Farreroft in Fairfax.
"The neo-traditional design is a logical extension of the town of Urbanna' Thompson said.
Keeping the view
Regarding the view from the curve on Route 227 leading into Urbanna, he said, "The most universal comment that we've heard from everyone was, 'When you come around that curve and you are looking at that water, that absolutely has to stay.' I can assure you that it is our intention to honor that 110 percent.
"We propose that all these fields that are presently being farmed will stay in their existing states:' said Thompson. "We don't envision doing anything in those areas at all."
The airplane runway open space will stay and be "a manicured open space" to be used for festival-type events.
Thompson said Rosegill would be "entirety residential; there will be no commercial use there whatsoever?'
He said the heritage of Rosegill's historic house would be honored and he would consider an historic easement. Thompson said making the mansion accessible to the public would mean making it comply with the American Disabilities Act, which could affect its historic integrity. "We have no plans but to protect it," he said.
The development would encourage walking trails and neighborhood parks, he said, and the waterfront would be for all development residents.
"We don't envision any of the lots running to the water:' said Thompson.
Rosegill has a little over a mile of waterfront on the Rappahannock River and about three-quarters of a mile on Urhanna Creek, in addition to two lakes.
The developers plan community recreation areas with a pool and tennis courts built near the lake that is nearest to the river.
They do not plan to sell bare lots, but instead will build custom houses of Basheer's approved styles. Houses would range from 2,500 to 5,000 square feet. They could not estimate the number of houses that would be built.
Townhouses are not planned, but attached houses are an option, said Basheer.
No golf course is planned and the development would not be a "gated" community.
Roads would be built to state standards and be public.
Basheer said the first phase would be on the west side of Route 227 up the creek from the Newman Bridge and include single-family homes ranging from 2,500 to 3,400 square feet on two levels.
Houses would be nestled in the woods with a community park and a small community pool. 'We don't like taking trees down," said Thompson.
Phase two would be around the lower lake and the third phase would be around the upper lake.
Public water and sewer would serve the development.
They said they have not given a lot of thought to the parcel that extends to Route 33 near Cooks Corner, which is zoned Village Community and could support commercial development.
The total Rosegill property had been advertised for sale at $12 million. The sellers, Alfred and Strother Scott of Richmond, paid $1.1 million for it in 1974.
About 14 months ago, Rosegill was offered as a site for a state park, however, Alfred Scott said at the meeting he has yet to get the first phone call from the state about the property. The state indicated it only had $5 to $7 million to spend on the park.
Rosegill hopefuls give site overview
By Matt Sabo
Published March 16, 2004
Matt Sabo can be reached at (804) 642-1748 of by e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org
URBANNA -- Prospective developers of Urbanna's historic gem, Rosegill Plantation, envision a village of large, colonial style single-family homes clustered together in pedestrian friendly neighborhoods bordered by expansive open spaces.
At least that's what Diane Cox Basheer and Ken Thompson, a Northern Virginia developing team, told about 50 area residents who attended Monday night's Urbanna Town Council meeting, which offered the first public glimpse of Rosegill's potential face-lift.
Basheer and Thompson have a contract with Rosegill owners Alfred and Strother Scott, Richmond brothers who bought the plantation in 1974 for $1.1 million, to develop the 860-acre property. The sales price has not been released - Rosegill was on the market for $12 million - and the developers have not submitted formal development plans to Middlesex County.
Basheer and Thompson spoke in broad terms of building in three phases, possibly as soon as a year from now, and being a good neighbor to Urbanna by being environmentally friendly and not competing with local merchants by building around a commercial core.
But they said they couldn't tell residents how many houses would be built, the price range of the homes or whether they have a "done deal" with the Scotts.
"I hate to keep saying, 'We don't know, we don't know, we don't know,' " Thompson said.
Thompson said they have no plans to make Rosegill a gated community, nor do they envision building a golf course. The roads into the plantation would be public, and Thompson said they would consider a historic easement for the main house so it wouldn't be completely off-limits to the public.
But Thompson stopped short of saying the large, main residence would be publicly accessible, he said. That's because it would have to be brought up to federal handicap-accessible standards, which he said would threaten the historical integrity of the house.
The plantation dates to 1650 and straddles an easy bend in Route 227 just outside the town, offering travelers a distinctive view of Urbanna at the confluence of Urbanna Creek and the Rappahannock River. Thompson said he and Basheer have met with local residents and officials recently and they heard a singular theme.
The most frequent "comment we heard from everyone is, 'When you come around the corner and see the water, that has to stay,' " Thompson said. "I can assure you here, it's our intention to honor that 110 percent."
During a question-and-answer session that followed their presentation, Thompson said plans for Rosegill include a community water and sewer system, though he didn't have specific details. That was the mantra for much of the night, with Basheer and Thompson offering general details, but nothing concrete.
Several times the two were pressed on the number of homes.
"We don't know how many houses yet," Thompson said. "That envelope will be changing."
They did say no lots would be sold, only homes. They estimated the size of the homes to range from 2,500 to 5,000 square feet.
Afterward, Urbanna area resident Jerre Mellon said he was still unsure about the water and sewer systems for Rosegill.
"I like the idea," he said. "If what we heard is what's going to happen, I like what I've heard."